Comments on: Chrome - a browser designed for qooxdoo

By: kenny

kenny — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 09:53:20 +0000

FWIW, the qooxdoo hello world example does not work on Chrome 0.3.154.9. Anyone know why? Clearly Chrome will be huge for a JS-heavy lib like qooxdoo.

By: James Milligan

James Milligan — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:00:16 +0000

No problem Fabian - it’s not often I’m able to help experienced people like you!

By: Thomas Herchenröder

Thomas Herchenröder — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:36:25 +0000

@sufehmi: You’re absolutely right. It’s not so much about using Javascript for the browser chrome, but about the lack of separation between chrome and tabs that causes the issue. This is still missing in Firefox, and no new and shiny JS engine can amend for this - it’s the architecture that sucks.

By: Fabian Jakobs

Fabian Jakobs — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:50:07 +0000

@sufehmi

Your observation is right. If this script freezes the browser, than the browser will run all JavaScript in one process. Since FireFox builds its own user interface with JavaScript as well, the entire browser freezes. Currently only Chrome and IE8 separate JavaScript execution within different tabs.

@James
Thanks for this information. I’ll try it with your special build but I don’t think gmx.com will do bug fixing for a developer build of Chrome. But I do expect support for all official releases.

By: James Milligan

James Milligan — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:48:59 +0000

er yes it is a special build - I’m on the development channel for it:

http://www.chromeplugins.org/chrome/chrome-developer-updates/

Hope that helps you

By: sufehmi

sufehmi — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:21:57 +0000

Whether a browser isolates JavaScript execution can easily be tested by typing this URL javascript:while(1) {} in the location bar.
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Sorry I’m being thick here - what to expect from it ?
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I tried it on the latest Firefox (3.1b2), and it froze the entire browser (which has about 10 tabs opened).
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Does that mean that 3.1b2 (which features Mozilla’s newest JavaScript engine - TraceMonkey) still run all Javascript code (including its own GUI) all together / unisolated from each other ?

By: Fabian Jakobs

Fabian Jakobs — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:12:28 +0000

I’ve just installed and checked the latest Chrome version (0.2.149.30) and it works without any problems. I’m a bit irritated by your Chrome version number. Do you use any special build?

By: James Milligan

James Milligan — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:56:43 +0000

Thanks for your reply Fabian - it’s stated on the GMX forum that Chrome definitely doesn’t work, so I was amazed to see you running it!

Let me know what GMX say regarding it. Thanks for your time.

By: Fabian Jakobs

Fabian Jakobs — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:54:00 +0000

Hi James,

I used the first version of Chrome just after it was released. I don’t whether the newer revisions have issues with gmx.com. I will forward it to the gmx.com developers.

By: James Milligan

James Milligan — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:58:13 +0000

Can I just say that GMX doesn’t work in Chrome… quite annoying really. Can I ask how you got it to ‘work’? Also, what version is it? A developer version? Because I’m running the dev version - the latest one (0.3.154.3) and it doesn’t work…